REC.MUSIC.MOVIES
Frequently Asked Questions
v1.7
Posted Fortnightly
Copyright (C) 1994, Simon Walmsley
IMPORTANT: Many people who have contributed to this list. Rather than
clutter up each section with credits, especially since some
sections have many contributors, there is a special credits
section at the end of the FAQ.
Thanks to everyone for making this a useful FAQ!
Frequently asked questions are simply that. At the moment the group is very new
and the questions listed here will hopefully anticipate many of the questions
I would expect such a group to have. If you feel that a particular question
should be in the FAQ, submit it with an answer. Otherwise, the FAQ will only
grow as people frequently ask a question, or if the answers to the questions
change or become irrelevant.
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CONTENTS
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A. Current & Upcoming:
1. When are the new FOX CDs coming out?
2. Are there any new interesting CDs up & coming?
3. What is happening with the Varese CD club?
B. General:
1. Where can I obtain soundtracks?
2. What publications exist for the soundtrack
enthusiast?
3. What ftp'able data is around, and what are
the sites that store it?
4. What is this 'movie database server' and why is
it useful?
5. What is a re-use fee, and why does it stop some
scores from being released?
6. Why is the music in the trailer for a movie
usually stolen from some other film?
7. What is the Varese Sarabande trademark?
8. What is the tango used in several recent movies?
C. Specific Soundtracks (alphabetical):
1. Black Hole
2. BladeRunner
3. Bounty (the)
4. Dune
5. Ferris Bueller's Day Off
6. Highlander
7. Krull
8. Ladyhawke
9. Legend
10. Raiders of the Lost Ark / Temple of Doom
11. Speed
12. 2001
D. Composers:
1. Where can I find out the filmography for a given
composer?
2. How can I contact composer X?
3. How I pronounce X's name?
E. Credits:
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Section A - Current & Upcoming
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1. When are the new FOX CDs coming out?
The first batch of CDs, including the Star Wars 4 CD set and
The Day The Earth Stood Still, came out for Christmas 1993.
The new FOX set of titles has been delayed multiple times,
and the latest release date is early 1995 at the EARLIEST.
The titles include:
Die Hard / Predator
Journey to the Centre of the Earth
The Sound of Music
The Ghost & Mrs Muir / A Hatful of Rain
State Fair
Forever Amber
The Mephisto Waltz / The Other
2. Are there any new interesting CDs up & coming?
* Ladyhawke has been recently released as a 2000 limited edition (see
specific section below).
* SCSE released 750 copies each (a gold coloured CD) of the
folowing CDs at the start of November:
- Krull (extended edition)
- Dragonslayer
- High Road to China
* Excalibur has been released by the same folks who released the bootleg
BladeRunner CD. OWM9402 contains the score by Trevor Jones and the
other classical pieces - better quality than the BladeRunner release,
but as before, only 2000 copies. I've heard that their next issue will
be the Tangerine Dream score for Legend.
* Milan released Michael Kamen's score for 'The Dead Zone' on
November 22nd. The packaging is certainly one of the more original
I've seen in a long time.
* I've heard that a new 'Star Trek The Motion Picture' release is due
early 1995 - containing lots of music that didn't make it to the
original release.
3. What is happening with the Varese CD club?
Although quiet for a time, I spoke to some folks at Varese recently
about this. They told me that the CD club would be starting up
early 1995. When they give me more info, I'll let the newsgroup know.
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Section B - General
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1. Where can I obtain soundtracks?
In most cases, during the time that a film is current, the soundtrack
for it (if released), is available at your local CD store. For older
films, or harder to find soundtracks, try these stores. Much of this
is canablalised (with permission) from Lukas Kendall's "Soundtrack
Club Handbook".
Australasia:
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AVA & SUSANS
Town Hall Arcade
Sydney 2000
Australia
Voice: +61-2-264-3179
Soundtracks & Broadway show CD & cassette specialists. Good for some
out of print stuff, but if they don't have something in stock, it can take
a while to come in. They are the Australian distributors for Varese.
[ Any specific shops in Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Asia or Japan?]
Europe:
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CAM
Via Virgilio 8
00193 Roma
Italy
Has reissued many soundtracks from classic Italian movies. For a
copy of their full catalog, send $10 (American money is accepted).
Their CD releases are available in the United States through Intrada.
MOVIE BOULEVARD
5 Cherry Tree Walk
Leeds LS2 7EB
England
Voice: +44-0532-422888
"Probably England's largest soundtrack dealer" --FILM SCORE
MONTHLY. Send 1 pound, or four International Reply Coupons, for
a large catalog.
SILVA SCREEN RECORD LIMITED
Silva House,
261 Royal College Street
London NW1 9LU
Phone: +44-71-284-0525
TARANTULA RECORDS
Postfach 11 02 82
20402 Hamburg
Germany
Voice: +49/40/35 35 11
Fax: +49/40/34 34 07
Features a large selection of international and European CDs and
LPs; write for a free catalog.
United States:
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ASQ BUDGET RECORDS
PO Box 850067
Yukon, OK 73085
Voice: (405) 324-6626
[Has anyone dealt with these folk? What services do they offer?]
COMPACT DISC CONNECTION
(soundtracks are mainly in the shows.cdc catalog)
1030 E. El Camino, #322
Sunnyvale, CA 94087
Voice: (408) 985-7905
Modem: (408) 985-8982 (8N1)
Fax: (408) 985-0464
Telnet: cdconnection.com
A convenient on-line CD store that features all kinds of music,
including a wide selection of soundtracks. They are reachable by
modem or by telnet.
FOOTLIGHT RECORDS
113 East 12th Street
New York, NY 10003
Voice: (212) 533-1572
A fast mail order service including both new and out-of-print
material. No catalog available; call to see what's in stock.
GNP CRESCENDO RECORDS
8400 Sunset Blvd
Hollywood California, 90069
Toll Free: (800) 654-7729
Voice: (213) 656-2814
Fax: (213) 656-0693
INTRADA
1488 Vallejo Street
San Francisco, CA 94109
Voice: (415) 776-1333
Fax: (415) 776-2666
The official outlet of the Intrada label. They do mail-order including
overseas, and carry both domestic and import stock from other labels.
Write or call them for a free catalog.
SCREEN ARCHIVES ENTERTAINMENT
PO Box 34792
Washington, DC 20043
Voice: (202) 328-1434
SOUNDTRACK ALBUM RETAILERS (S.T.A.R.)
PO Box 487
New Holland, PA 17557
Voice: (717) 656-0121
Fax: (717) 656-0121 [yes, voice & fax are the same #]
Exclusively sells soundtracks (both CDs and LPs); many import
soundtracks available. Write for a free catalog. They also have
a clearance catalog containing out-of-print and used CDs.
SUPER COLLECTOR
16547 Brookhurst Street
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
Voice: (714) 839-3693
Toll free: (800) 997-2434
Fax: (714) 839-8263
VARESE SARABANDE
11846 Ventura Boulevard, Suite 130
Studio City, California, 91604
Ph: (818) 753-4143
Fax:(818) 753-7596
The official outlet of the Varese Sarabande label; if you're having
trouble finding a Varese release, try here. Write for a free
catalog and information on their CD Club.
LASER PERCEPTIONS BOOKS NIPPON
3300 Judah Street 1123 Dominguez Street, Suite K
San Francisco, CA 94122 Carson, CA 90746
Two sources for Japanese anime soundtracks, such as AKIRA and
ROBOTECH, etc.
WEST POINT RECORDS
24365 San Fernando Road
Newhall, CA 91321
Specializes in soundtracks on LP only; has over 10,000 records in
stock. Write for a newsletter/catalog and include a "want list"
if you're interested in specific releases.
2. What publications exist for the soundtrack enthusiast?
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Books:
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Karlin, Fred and Wright, Rayburn. "On the Track, A Guide to
Contemporary Film Scoring." Schirmer Books, New York, 1990.
This is the best overall book on film scoring. It's quite large
(856 8 1/2 X 11 pages) and complete, containing information on the
film-scoring process, technical matters, composition, scoring, songs,
and business. Fred and Ray interviewed dozens of top composers in the
course of writing this book. This is a book written for those
interested in learning about how to write music for films.
Karlin, "Listening to Movies", Schirmer Books, NYC, 1994.
Subtitled "The Film Lover's Guide to Film Music", this book is
geared to those who appreciate rather than write, film music.
It features sections devoted to film music composition, recording
and mixing; listening to and evaluating film scores; working within
the Hollywood studio system and freelancing; awards and commercial
soundtrack albums; a film music chronology; and a listing of major
composers and their credits. Includes a foreword by Leonard Maltin.
Thomas, Tony. "Film Score: The Art & Craft of Movie Music." Riverwood
Press, Burbank, CA, 1991.
This book contains the text of 25 interviews with or articles by top
film composers, each with an introduction by Mr. Thomas. The composers
range from Miklos Rozsa and Max Steiner to Jerry Goldsmith and John
Williams; there are no younger ones. There are a lot of valuable
insights in this book.
Hagen, Earle. "Scoring for Films." E.D.J. Music, 1971.
Another "how to" book on scoring. The first half of the book is devoted
to technical timing issues; this seems to Dean to be semi-obsolete since
film composers nowadays use video with SMPTE code in minutes, seconds
and frames for timing rather than actual film frames; also using
computer programs like Opcode's CUE to do the grunt work of converting
timings to measures and beats, and finding tempi that hit the action.
There are sections on aesthetic and practical issues, and many cues
from Mr. Hagen's scores (with an accompanying recording) that are still
quite valuable.
Prendergrast, Roy M. "Film Music, A Neglected Art." W.W. Norton & Co.,
New York, 1977.
This is primarily a history of film music, and a nice little one at
that. It also has short sections on aesthetic and technical issues.
There is a second edition also available.
Weis, Elisabeth and Belton, John, ed. "Film Sound: Theory and
Practice." Columbia University Press, New York, 1985.
About film sound in general, not music, this book is valuable in
illuminating the place of music in the overall film soundtrack. It has
an overall theoretical and academic cast.
Frederickson & Stewart, "Film Annual 19xx", published by Companion.
These books list the cast & crew (including composers) for all films
released in the US. Contains a few photos.
Henry Mancini, "Sounds and Scores"
This is really an orchestration book, it's not about film scoring per se.
A good place to buy these books, and others about film and theatre in
general is: Samuel French Theatre & Film Bookshop, 11963 Ventura Blvd.,
Studio City, CA (818) 762-0535. They have a mail-order catalog.
Periodicals:
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There was Film Music/Film Music Notes, which published from the 40s through the
50s--you can find in some university libraries. Elmer Bernstein's Filmmusic
Notebook published in the 70s. The Rozsa Society (Pro Musica Sana) has
published since the 70s. The Society for the Preservation of Film Music
publishes The Cue Sheet. The International Film Music Society will yet publish
the Journal of Film Music.
The best fanzine ever was Cinemascore, (issues #10-15). I think the back
issues are still in print [ anyone know an address? ]. Film Score Monthly and
Soundtrack! publish regularly and are your best source for news of the field.
Film Score Monthly will send you a nice fact sheet of all sorts of useful
info, including a list of radio stations which have film music programs.
(a) Film Score Monthly:
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Almost monthly. Q&A, letters, classified ads, upcoming CD recordings,
upcoming film scores, CD reviews, articles and interviews. Approx 24
pages/month. Back issues available. Cash, check, money order or
international money/postal order ($18 for US, $25 for other countries) to:
Film Score Monthly
c/o Pearson Publishing
P.O. Box 360
Sea Cliff, NY 11579
credit card subs at 1-800-222-3201
Questions can be directed to Lukas Kendall at: ldkendal@unix.amherst.edu
(b) SOUNDTRACK!:
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SOUNDTRACK! is issued on a quarterly basis from Belgium. It's probably one of
the oldest soundtrack publications around. It's gone through its periods of
burn-out, but lately it's making a nice comeback. An example issue features a
great interview with John Williams, a complete and detailed filmography of
Jerry Goldsmith, and international new release information. You can subscribe
by sending U.S. dollars (cash only well wrapped in an extra piece of paper) to
SOUNDTRACK!
c/o Luc Vande Ven
Kon. Astridlaan 171
2800 Mechelen
Belgium
(c) The Score:
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A excellent periodical on film scoring is "The Score," published by the
Society of Composers & Lyricists, 400 South Beverly Dr., Suite 214,
Beverly Hills, CA 90212, tel (310) 281-2812. SCL is an organization of
film composers and lyricists. Dean thinks that The Score is currently
available only to members, but has suggested that they sell
subscriptions to the public to raise money. The Score has interviews
with prominent composers, articles about legal and business issues of
interest to film composers, historical articles and anecdotes, etc.
(d) The Horner Letter:
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A new newsletter for James Horner fans, THE HORNER LETTER, has recently
started. It is a free, monthly publication (free to anyone who writes in
and requests it). If you would like to subscribe, submit reviews and articles,
opinions or letters etc, please contact:
Mark G. So
302 Scottholm Boulevard
Syracuse, NY 13224-1732
Says Mark: "I'm tired of James Horner and his music always being written
off or put on the back burner in favor of others. Not to say that other
composers should not be as enthusiastically discussed, just that James
Horner should be given equal treatment. Through this publication, I am
hoping to provide an open forum for both fans and critics of this
prominent but oft-disregarded film composer."
3. What ftp'able data is around, and what are the sites that store it?
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The movie database server is probably one of the most useful tools
around for the soundtrack enthusiast. Q4 deals directly with it.
For lyrics from soundtracks, try:
ftp.uwp.edu:/pub/music/lyrics/m/misc.soundtrack
[anyone have information on other sites?]
4. What is this 'movie database server' and why is it useful?
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The movie database is an international volunteer effort coordinated via the
newsgroup rec.arts.movies. The objective of the database is to provide
useful and up to date movie information *freely* available on-line, across as
many systems and platforms as possible. It currently covers over 29,000 movies
with over 335,000 filmography entries and is expanding continuously. The
database includes filmographies for actors, directors, writers, composers,
cinematographers, editors, production designers, costume designers and
producers; plot summaries; character names; movie ratings; year of release;
movie trivia; quotes; goofs; soundtracks; personal trivia and Academy Award
information. The composers and soundtracks databases should be of particular
interest to readers of rec.music.movies.
The movie database FAQ contains more information on the whole project and
is available by sending e-mail to movie@ibmpcug.co.uk with the subject
"HELP FAQ"
So if you need a list of all the scores by a particular composer, or you
can't remember who did the score for a particular movie, the database should
be able to help. Here are some of the ways to access it:
(1) To use the e-mail interface, send a message with the subject:
HELP
to movie@ibmpcug.co.uk and the movie mail-server will respond with
a copy of the help file.
(2) For remote interactive access to the database via World Wide Web, if you
have access to a WWW browser such as Mosaic (X windows, PC and Mac versions
are available from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu in /Web) try the following URLs:
http://www.cm.cf.ac.uk/Movies/ (European users prefered)
http://www.msstate.edu/Movies/ (USA/rest of world prefered)
http://ballet.cit.gu.edu.au/Movies/ (Australian users *only*)
(3) For local interactive access to the database, the FTP site cathouse.org
has software for several operating systems:
Unix in /pub/cathouse/movies/database/tools/moviedb-2.9.tar.Z
MS-DOS in /pub/cathouse/movies/database/tools/cb130a.zip
Amiga in /pub/cathouse/movies/database/tools/mdb_Amiga_2_8.lha
(4) For telnet access via WWW:
telnet info.cern.ch
then type go http://www.cm.cf.ac.uk/Movies/
telnet ukanaix.cc.ukans.edu (login: www) needs vt100
then look under "by Subject" then "Movies"
The ASCII list files from which the database is built are also available via
anonymous FTP so if you want a handy reference but aren't interested in
installing the software locally or searching via WWW/e-mail, you can obtain
copies from:
cathouse.org in pub/cathouse/movies/database/composers.list.Z
pub/cathouse/movies/database/soundtracks.list.Z
ftp.funet.fi in pub/culture/tv+film/lists/composers.list.gz
pub/culture/tv+film/lists/soundtracks.list.gz
The soundtracks list is a relatively new addition to the database so
coverage there isn't as good. See the database FAQ for details on how to
submit additions to the database.
5. What is a re-use fee, and why does it stop some scores from being released?
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Most major Hollywood productions use LA union musicians to record the
score. The contract that the producers of the film sign with the
Musician's Union requires the producers to pay the recording artists
union scale rates, and to make payments to the union's health and pension
funds. In return, the producers get a license to use the recording in the
film. They do not, however, get a license to use the recording for other
purposes, such as soundtrack albums. To get this right, the producers
must pay the musicians who worked on the session a "re-use fee," stated
in the original contract. With the original sessions fees as high as they
are (sometimes adding up to several hundred thousand dollars), it's easy
to imagine that the re-use fee is non-trivial, and sometimes prevents the
release of a soundtrack album.
6. Why is the music in the trailer for a movie usually stolen from some
other film? -----------------------------------------------------------
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There are several reasons:
A) Sometimes the score is being recorded only hours before the dub is
completed and the prints run for distribution. This is usually a result
of poor planning by the producers/director, or "just one more" edit, or
any number of market research problems. The composer "eats" the time
problem. This is why many composers today have whole teams of "ghost"
writer/orchestrators to help them finish in time.
B) The trailer is a very short advertisement for the film, designed to show
snippets from the film to get you to come to see it. Usually there are
parts from all over the film, and the order is very disjoint from the
regular flow of the film. As a result, music composed for the actual movie
may not fit well with the trailer. So even if they had the music was
finished, the composer may have to write music specifically for the
trailer, or the producers can use some generic action/romance/comedy
piece of music. An example of this is a piece of music from The Hunt
For Red October (track 10 on the CD soundtrack- 'Kaboom!'). It has been
used again and again for action and thriller movies. And the best part
about this track is that virtually any snippets from any action/thriller
movie would work well with it (in a trailer sense). It gets you on the
edge of your seat, and makes you think "Hey - I want to see that movie!".
7. What is the Varese Sarabande trademark?
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I'm told it's simply an inkblot. A registered inkblot, but still an inkblot.
8. What is the tango used in several recent movies?
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The tango used in True Lies, Schindler's List and Scent of a Woman is called
'Por Una Cabeza', and is by Carlos Gardel. You'll find it on the Scent of a
Woman soundtrack, but not on the True Lies or Schindler's List soundtrack.
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Section C - Specific Soundtracks
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1. Black Hole (John Barry)
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Composed & conducted by John Barry, it is the VERY FIRST DIGITALLY MASTERED LP.
It contains many interesting marches and cues from the film, but was only
ever released on LP and cassette.
The film (although ambitious), flopped, and the soundtrack was discontinued
soon afterwards.
You might be able to hunt the LP (BuenaVista 5008) down in a 2nd hand shop,
but I'm not sure how many people would be willing to part with the first
digitally mastered LP.
For those who are desperate, Barry's cues for the outer space parts of his
score for 'Moonraker' are very similar - some of the marches are almost
identical. You can readily buy 'Moonraker' (and Barry's other Bond scores)
on CD for about $10US.
Disney is planning to reissue some soundtracks this year [1994], and the CD
for The Black Hole, although not planned for the first batch, has been added
to the list because of this newsgroup.
2. BladeRunner:
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Although the movie claims the soundtrack is released on Polydor, there is no
such release. Instead, there are 5 other releases known:
(a) Official release by Vangelis
(b) Bootleg
(c) Rumours of real soundcassette soundtrack in France only
(d) New American Orchestra Version
(e) Themes, by Vangelis
(a) In June 1994, the original soundtrack for Bladerunner was officially
released by EastWest (EastWest 4509-96574-2) in Europe/UK, through
Atlantic in the USA, and through Warner in Australia.
The booklet has new photos from the film and Vangelis says a few
things about the film and how he sees it as a whole. And that's it really.
No other comments in the booklet.
There are new tracks in the CD. Four of them to be precice.
At just under 58 minutes long, the CD contains the following tracks:
1. Main titles - 3:42 *
2. Blush response - 5:47 * (not in movie)
3. Wait for me - 5:28 * (not in movie)
4. Rachael's song - 4:47 (not in movie)
5. Love theme - 4:58
6. One more kiss, dear - 3:58
7. Blade runner blues - 8:55
8. Memories of green - 5:05
9. Tales of the future - 4:46
10. Damask Rose - 2:33 (not in movie)
11. Blade runner (End Titles) - 4:40
12. Tears in rain - 3:01 *
Total 57:40
* Includes original film extracts
Vangelis has taken all the pieces of the soundtrack and "made them into
a new piece of work, really". It seems to be one continuous piece, and
includes music recorded for but left out of the movie, and has extended
pieces that might have been cut out of the movie (the bootleg also has
these extended pieces). There are also 'sound bites' ("not just chunks
of dialog") worked into the music.
Given that the sound bites in tracks 1, 2, 3, and 12 cannot be removed
from the music, the bootleg of the soundtrack (see below) is the only
way of hearing the music in its original format, not to mention the
many tracks on the bootleg (25+ minutes) which never made it to the
official release.
Of course, the quality of the official release is extremely high,
and should satisfy most consumers.
If you have the Bootleg CD, there is no excuse whatsoever, not to get the
official release. Here is a comparison between the bootleg & the Official
Release.
Bladerunner (Bootleg CD) | Bladerunner (Official Release)
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Ladd Company Logo | Non-existent
Main titles and prologue | Main titles \
L.A. November 2019 | Main titles / same track but some missing
Deckard meets Rachel | Blush Response (new music material)
Bicycle Riders | Non-existent
Memories of Green | Memories of Green
Blade Runner Blues | Blade Runner Blues
Deckard's Dream | Non-existent
On the Trail of Nexus 6 | Tales of the Future (Lyrics by Demis Rousos)
If I didn't care | Non-existent
Love Theme | Love Theme
The prodical son brings death | Non-existent (Pity really, very good track)
Dangerous Days | Non-existent
Wounded Animals | Non-existent
Tears in Rain | Tears in Rain
End Titles | Blade Runner (End Titles) but 3mins shorter
One more kiss Dear | One more kiss Dear
Trailer and alternate |
Main titles| Non-existent
This is the equivalency of each track comparing to the new ones in the O.R.
But there are also some new tracks in there :
| Wait for Me (with some dialogs between
| Rachel and Deckard)
| Rachel's Song (completely new)
| Damask Rose (see Tales of the Future)
| Blush Response (as I said before)
here is a description of two of the tracks on the new release...
Main Titles :
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We listen to the voice of Harison Ford talking to the 3D Photo-Scanner,
from the relevant scene of the film. It is where Deckard got hold of some
of Batty's personal Photos and he is analysing them with his special
equipment. The music has already begun, but really slowly and quietly.
The moment where Deckard requests from the machine a copy of what he is
searching (aka "OK! Give me a Hard Copy of this"), the well-known music
piece starts filling the bass of the loudspeakers. The difference is that
this time on the O.R. this base is not distorted like in the Bootleg CD,
and unfortunately, the opening credits (and introductory text) music is not
included.
Tears in Rain :
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Batty has saved Deckard and before he dies, sits down in the rain to talk
to him:
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe . ..
All those moments... will be lost in time... like tears in rain"
(b) A bootleg copy of the Blade Runner Soundtrack appeared in select stores a
couple of days before Christmas 1993:
Original Motion Picture Soundtrack: Blade Runner
Limited Edition of 2,000 (not licensed for public sale)
Off World Music, Ltd., no. OWM 9301
Compact Disc (ADD)
1. Ladd Company Logo (0:24), John Williams
2. Main Titles and Prologue (4:03) Vangelis
3. Los Angeles, November 2019 (1:46) Vangelis
4. Deckard Meets Rachael (1:29) Vangelis
5. Bicycle Riders [Harps of the Ancient Temples] (2:05) Gail Laughton
6. Memories of Green (5:39) Vangelis
7. Blade Runner Blues (10:19) Vangelis
8. Deckard's Dream (1:12) Vangelis
9. On the Trail of Nexus 6 (5:30) Vangelis [uses Middle-Eastern wailing]
10. If I Didn't Care (3:03) Jack Lawrence [only used in workprint]
11. Love Theme (4:57) Vangelis
12. The Prodigal Son Brings Death (3:35) Vangelis
13. Dangerous Days (1:02) Vangelis
14. Wounded Animals (10:58) Vangelis
15. Tears in Rain (2:41) Vangelis
16. End Titles (7:24) Vangelis
17. One More Kiss Dear (4:00) Skelling and Vangelis [theatrical release]
18. Trailer and Alternate Main Titles (1:39) Robert Randles
Total disc time: 72:42
The CD includes an 8-page booklet containing 6 movie stills. Cover art is from
the British one-sheet movie poster that accompanied the 1982 release. The back
cover is a color still from an aborted sequence in which Leon's photo turns out
to be a hologram that shows Batty's head turning (Cinefex no. 9, July 1982).
The inside back cover is a bird's eye view of Deckard's spinner as he and
Rachael escape the city (Official Blade Runner Souvenir Magazine, 1982).
Another photo possibly unfamiliar to many is Deckard looking at Holden in a
life-support machine (a similar photo appeared in Video Watchdog, Nov-Dec
1993).
According to the booklet, Scott contacted several composers in case the score
by Vangelis didn't work out. His ultimate decision to supplement the film with
other source music led to a contractual dispute with the composer. As a
result, Vangelis refused to release the soundtrack album. Notes on the various
pieces were interesting like the fact that the Love Theme and Rachael's
piano playing are a variation on Chopin's 13th Nocturne. (The love theme used
in the workprint is not included in this album.) The music for several
pieces is heard complete for the first time and will prove fascinating
listening for fans of the film, particularly nos. 9, 12, 13, and 14. Those
familiar with the Warner Bros. New American Orchestra CD [see below] will also
appreciate that Blade Runner Blues is more than twice as long on this CD.
The producer (Christopher L. Shimata-Dominguez) displays a sense of humor
with his name and Off World Music label. He also warns that unauthorized
"replication" is a violation of applicable laws. The quality of the disc
is quite good but the price tag may be a bit daunting; while not for public
sale a contribution of US$34.95 was sufficient to obtain a copy of this
individually numbered limited edition.
(c) There are unsubstantiated rumors that a few albums of the real
soundtrack were sold in Europe (cassette only, France only).
(d) A record album called "Blade Runner" (WEA 1982) is available but it is NOT
the actual movie soundtrack, rather it is an orchestral arrangement of the
soundtrack performed by the New American Orchestra. It contains the
following tracks:
Love Theme (4:12)
Main Title (5:01)
One More Kiss, Dear (4:00)
Memories Of Green (4:50)
End Title (reprise) (4:17)
Blade Runner Blues (4:38)
Farewell (3:10)
Love Theme (4:12)
(e) Vangelis released an album called "Themes" in 1992, which contains the
following music from the movie soundtrack:
End Titles from "BLADERUNNER" (4:57)
Love Theme from "BLADERUNNER" (4:55)
Memories of Green (5:42)
"Memories of Green" was originally released on Vangelis' album "See You
Later". Scott used the orchestrated version of "Memories of Green" in his
film "Someone to Watch Over Me"
Vangelis also wrote the score for "Antarctica", which includes tracks very
similar to those used in Blade Runner (the Unicorn dream music used in the
Director's Cut is actually lifted from Antarctica). His 1979 album "Opera
Sauvage" also contains tracks similar to those in Blade Runner.
The Japanese vocals associated with the Blimp are from:
"Japan: Traditional Vocal and Instrumental Music, Shakuhachi,
Biwa, Koto, Shamisen" [compact disc]
Performed by Ensemble Nipponia, 1976
Electra Asylum Nonesuch Records/Warner Communications Inc.
The lyrics tell of the tragic and utter destruction of one Japanese clan by
another.
Gail Laughton's "Harps of the Ancient Temples" is used as the bicyclists pass
by Leon and Batty on their way to Chew's Eye World. This album is listed in
old CD catalogs on the Laurel label, cat #111.
3. The Bounty (Vangelis):
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(1984 version starring Mel Gibson)
The complete soundtrack has never been officially released.
Vangelis released an album called "Themes" in 1992, which contains the
following music from the movie soundtrack:
Opening Titles from "The Bounty" (4:16)
Closing Titles from "The Bounty" (4:58)
A bootleg copy of the 90 minute soundtrack has been floating about in both
cassette and CD form. The 2 volume CD (WD9402-1 and WD9402-2) has the
following tracks:
Volume 1:
1. Opening Titles 4:16
2. The Inquiry Begins 2:21
3. We Set Sail 2:49
4. The First Evening 1:48
5. Attempting The Horn 8:38
6. Letter Home 1:16
7. Mr Friar Replaced 1:34
8. Valentine's Burial 2:36
9. Tahiti Welcome 3:18
10. Bligh Haunted 11:04
11. The Wedding 0:50
12. Love Remembered 2:14
13. Desertion 1:35
14. Discovery 1:58
Total 46:16
Volume 2:
1. Discipline 5:22
2. The Mutiny 5:02
3. Bligh Set Adrift 1:33
4. Attack and Escape 3:05
5. Conflict 1:13
6. Fletcher's Log 7:59
7. Land Sighted 0:40
8. Journey's End 5:18
9. End Titles 15:39
Total 45:51
4. Dune (Toto)
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Was out of print a few years back, but is now readily available in Europe and
the United States. Compact Disc Connection lists it as being released
in March 1994 by Collector's Pipeline (COH13).
Otherwise it is available on Polydor 422 823 770-2.
5. Ferris Bueller's Day Off (Various)
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Director John Hughes refused to release a soundtrack album for his film FERRIS
BUELLER'S DAY OFF because he didn't think that the diverse collection of songs
in the movie would "work" together. People have been looking in vain for that
album ever since. The closest thing that exists is a promotional single
featuring tracks from the film; the single was distributed through the mail
and at sneak previews around the time of the film's release, but at this time
it's not clear what songs it featured.
This listing will help you find the albums and singles where the songs used
in the film originally appeared. Armed with this information, you can compile
your own version of the mythical Ferris Bueller's soundtrack. The songs are
listed below, accoupanied by the scenes in which they were used and the
releases on which they are most readily available in the US. CDs are listed
where possible, but some tracks are difficult to find in any format. If you
have information not included here, please pass it along. Maybe someday some
enterprising bootlegger will pull these all together and release a
soundtrack of their own...
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Scene: Opening of the film, after Ferris fools his parents
Song: Sigue Sigue Sputnik: "Love Missile F1-11 (dance mix)" [edit for movie]
On: "Love Missile F1-11" (US 12": EMI-Manhattan V-56021)
Scene: Ferris trying to convince Cameron to come over
Song: "Theme From I DREAM OF JEANNIE"
On: Television's Greatest Hits Volume II (US CD: Tee Vee Toons...)
Scene: "The 1961 Ferrari 250 GT California"
Song: Yello: "Oh Yeah"
On: "Oh Yeah" (single, all fmts), Stella (album), One Second (US album)
Scene: Aerial shots entering Chicago
Song: The Flowerpot Men (Ben Watkins/Adam Peters): "Beat City"
On: The Janice Long Sessions (UK 12": Strange Fruit SFNT 007)
Scene: Leaving the Ferrari with the Garage Psychos (heard on the radio)
Song: Big Audio Dynamite: "B.A.D."
On: This Is Big Audio Dynamite (US: Columbia 40220)
Scene: Rooney tracks Ferris to the arcade -- or so he thinks
Song: Unknown
Scene: Garage Psychos in the Ferrari
Song: "Theme from STAR WARS"
On: Star Wars: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack (US CD: Col. 800 096-2)
Scene: Ferris, Sloane, and Cameron in the Art Museum
Song: Dream Academy: "Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want (inst.)"
On: "Please Please Please..." (UK 12": Blanco Y Negro NEG 20T)
On: The Dream Academy (US Laserdisc: Pioneer Artists CLD86-003)
[This song has never been issued as a sound recording in the States.]
Scene: Ferris sings at the parade
Song: Wayne Newton: "Danke Schoen"
On: Assorted Wayne Newton compilations
Scene: The Parade
Song: The Beatles: "Twist And Shout"
On: Please Please Me (US CD: Capitol 46435-2)
Scene: Returning from Chicago
Song: Zapp: "Radio People"
On: The New Zapp IV U (US CD: Warner Bros. 26327-2)
Scene: At the beach?
Song: Blue Room: "I'm Afraid"
On: Unknown
Scene: At the pool
Song: General Public: "Taking The Day Off"
On: Hand To Mouth [IRS Vintage Years edition] (US CD: IRS X2-13179)
Scene: Ferris says goodbye to Sloane
Song: Dream Academy: "The Edge Of Forever"
On: The Dream Academy (US CD: Warner Bros. 25265-2)
Scene: Ferris beats feet for home
Song: The (English) Beat: "March Of The Swivel Heads"
On: "Jeanette" (UK 12": Go-Feet Records FEET 1215)
On: "I Confess" (US 7": IRS Records)
Scene: Closing credits, Rooney on the bus
Song: Yello: "Oh Yeah (dance mix)"
On: "Oh Yeah" 12" single
6. Highlander (Kamen/ Queen):
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Some of this soundtrack is available on the Queen album 'A Kind of Magic':
1) One Vision *
2) A Kind Of Magic
3) One Year Of Love
4) Pain Is So Close To Pleasure
5) Friends Will Be Friends
6) Who Wants To Live Forever
7) Gimme The Prize (Kurgan's Theme)
8) Don't Lose Your Head
9) Princes Of The Universe
10) Forever +
11) One Vision (Extended Version) +
* Featured in the movie Iron Eagle. + Bonus tracks on CD only.
Another Queen song in the movie called Hammer To Fall is on the Queen
album The Works. The rumored soundtrack bootleg is not known by ANYONE. Of
all the people on the Queen Mailing Service and the newsgroup, no one reports
to have it. So if someone wants to hear Freddie Mercury sing "New York,
New York", they'll just have to see the movie.
In addition, a German soundtrack dealer, "Edel" published a double
CD containing an orchestral version of Highlander and others - Best Of Fantasy.
On CD 1 there is a Highlander suite with the following tracks:
1. It's A Kind Of Magic (4:28) (Queen)
2. The Castle-A.D. 1518 (2:00) (Michael Kamen)
3. Ramirez Arrrives (2:10) (Kamen)
4. Training Montage (4:10) (Kamen)
5. Heather Death
Who Wants To Live Forever (4:38) (Kamen, Queen)
6. Forge Battle, There Can Only Be One (5:54) (Kamen)
All stuff on both CDs aren't original soundtracks, but original scores.
"A Kind Of Magic" is performed by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra and
"Who Wants To Live Forever" by the City Of Prague Orchestra.
The CD is more interesting for fans of the Michael Kamen-score than for
Queen-fans.
7. Krull (James Horner)
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There are 2 versions of this soundtrack released. A short version, and
a longer, limited edition (2000 copies only) 79 minute release.
The short version [length anyone?] is on the Southern Cross label (SOH1004)
and is readily available.
The limited edition 79 minute release was by Soundtrack Collector's
Special Editions, label SCSE-CD4. As there were only 2000 copies of this
soundtrack released, it is now reasonably difficult to find. The notes for
this version claim it is the _complete_ soundtrack.
Note that on 1st November 1994, 750 copies of the soundtrack was released
as a special gold-coloured CD edition.
8. Ladyhawke (Powell)
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A few years ago this was only available from Super Collector in California
from tape sources (apparantly the sound quality was very good). However a
limited edition (2000 copies) of the CD was released in mid 1994 by the
Italian label Genoa. Here are the details...
Title: Ladyhawke
Composer: Andrew Powell (also orchestrator and conductor)
Performed by The Philharmonia Orchestra
Produced and engineered by Alan Parsons
Record Company: Genoa Records, Via Agazio 36C-7, 16151 Genoa, ITALY, Europe
Limited Edition: 2000 numbered copies
Titles:
1. Main Title
2. Phillipe's Escape
3. The Search for Phillipe
4. Tavern Fight (Phillipe)
5. Tavern Fight (Navarre)
6. Phillipe Describes Isabeau
7. Narvarre's Ambush
8. The Chase, The Fall & The Transformation
9. "She was Sad at First..."
10. Navarre returns to Aquila
11. Navarre's and Marquet's Duel
12. Marquet's Death
13. Bishop's Death
14. End Title
9. Legend (Jerry Goldsmith / Tangerine Dream)
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There are 2 versions of this soundtrack. The European and Australian release of
Legend had the Goldsmith score. The USA release had a Tangerine Dream score.
Debates go on about the merits of the various scores, but is beyond the scope
of the faq. Suffice it to say that the Goldsmith score is Western mythology
based, while the Tangerine Dream is Eastern mythology based. Legend itself
was supposed to be based in Western mythology, so although the 2 scores are
completely different, the basis for the Goldmith score is the more "correct"
one.
Jerry Goldmith originally composed the score for the film, but for its US
release, the studio felt it needed a more rock-contemporary score to sell the
film to the MTV audience. So Goldsmith's score was scrapped (to his vast dis-
approval) and Tangerine Dream was brought in to do a score for the US prints.
Ridley Scott basically butchered the score, and used it wherever and whenever
he liked, which may explain why it is not readily available.
Unfortunately, when Universal sold Legend to American television, they beefed
up its running time by adding footage from the Goldsmith scored version, so for
one scene Goldsmith's score pops in for a few minutes, then the Dream's music
returns, causing a jarring clash of styles.
(a) Jerry Goldsmith version:
Is available on CD Silva Screen label (SIL45, FILMCD045).
Readily available from mail-order places including CDC.
70 mins in duration.
(b) Tangerine Dream version:
Is not available on CD. Reasons vary from Jon Anderson not permitting
his single track to be released, and therefore holding up the rest of the
album to simply too much red tape. Was released on LP and cassette.
[Cassette MCAC-6515, LP MCA 6165 - try used record stores]
Rumour has it that the group did release the soundtrack on CD in Germany
only, but no sightings by people on this group.
The cassette is readily available, but it is officially out of print, so
get a copy if you want one. The Bryan Ferry song "Is Your Love Strong
Enough" was only avaliable on this soundtrack until it was recently
included in the soundtrack for the movie, "Threesome".
10. Raiders of the Lost Ark (John Williams)
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This has been available in cassette form in the US for some time, but
was recently discontinued. The CD version (and of the Temple of Doom)
has been readily available as a Japanese import. The catalog numbers for
the CD are: POCP 2013 (Raiders) and POCP 2014 (Temple of Doom).
Some hopefuls say that the pulling of the cassette is a necessary first
step for a re-issue of a more improved, more music version world-wide,
but I won't hold my breath.
11. Speed (Mancina)
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A 'soundtrack' was released with Speed, but basically it contained a lot
of stuff that had nothing to do with the movie. After much petition, Fox
released the music from the movie (rather than songs INSPIRED BY), and it
is readily available with catalog#: FOX 11020-2.
12. 2001 (Alex North / Various)
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Stanley Kubrick's 2001 was released with music by Richard Strauss, Johann
Strauss, Aram Khatchaturian, and Gyorgy Ligeti. This music has become
almost synonymous with 2001 over the years, and is generally available in
many forms, since these classical composers were already well known before
2001 was in the pipeline.
However, Kubrick had actually employed Alex North (who had previously
scored Kubrick's Spartacus) to compose the score, and it wasn't until North
went to the premiere of the film in New York that he found out that the score
which he had written and had been recorded was not used in the film at all!
Alex North left the theatre crushed and in shock.
Afterwards, Alex kept the score to himself, and until his death only played
the score to Jerry Goldmith (and only once), although he did use some of the
music for his scores of 'Dragonslayer' and 'Good Morning Vietnam'. After his
death, Anna North worked with Jerry Goldsmith in order to re-record Alex's
work of art in Jan 1993.
The result, "Alex North's 2001" is available on Varese Sarabande, VSD5400.
The masterful recording and extensive liner notes make this a must.
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Section D - Composers
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1. Where can I find out the filmography for a given composer?
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Online:
Use the movies database. See section A question 4 for details on how
to do this, but in general, here is the format:
Send mail messsage with the subject:
COMPO x, y (for example COMPO Horner, James)
to movie@ibmpcug.co.uk and the movie mail-server will respond with the
information you require. If you include the word HELP in the body of the
message, you will also receive a copy of the help file.
Offline:
Soundtrack encyclopaedias. [details anyone]
2. How can I contact composer X?
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(a) Jerry Goldmith:
c/o Jonathan Axworthy
The Goldsmith Society
102 Horndean Road
Emsworth, Hants
PO10 7TL
U.K.
3. How do I pronounce X's name?
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(a) Vangelis Papathanasiou:
Papathanasiou (last name)
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Papa (universal pronunciation as in 'mama-papa')
tha (a rather thick 'Th' as in 'Theodore')
na (as in 'nasty')
si (accent goes here, say 'si senior', that's the 'si' you need)
ou (a 'ou' sounding more like tha english double-o e.g. ooze!)
Some semantics now: the prefix Papa- means in Greek orthodox
tradition someone who is a descendant of a 'Papa' (accent on the
second 'pa') i.e., a priest. It is very unlikely that Vangelis'
father (Ulysses) was a priest, most Papa- names were "generated"
more than a century ago.
Vangelis (first name)
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Vangelis in Greek is actually Baggelhs (Beta which in Greek is pronounced
as V, the Alpha, Gamma Gamma pronounced as G, Epsilon as E, Ita as I (ee)
and finally Sigma pronounced as S)
It is actually pronounced in Greek as Vagelis. No N. But for
pronounciation purposes, and because most Anglo Saxons have hard time
pronouncing Greek names they put the N before G.
In Greek is Vagelis in English it should be Vangelis with SOFT g.
That is, people may very well say 'Vagelis' and mean the same name.
The name 'Vangelis' comes from the name 'Evangelos' which means
"the bearer of good news". ('eu' = good + 'angelos' = messenger,
in ancient Greek).
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Section E - Credits
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Text & General Maintenance: Simon Walmsley (simon@canon.research.oz.au)
Thank you to the following people who have contibuted to the listed sections:
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Current & Upcoming: Everyone!
Soundtrack Stores: Lukas Kendall (ldkendal@unix.amherst.edu)
Ellen Edgerton (ebedgert@rodan.syr.edu)
Ford Thaxton (fordat@aol.com)
Publications: Dean Wallraff (deanraff@netcom.com)
John Skoda (JohnSkoda@aol.com)
Lukas Kendall (ldkendal@unix.amherst.edu)
Ellen Edgerton (ebedgert@mothra.syr.edu)
Paul Bouthillier (boutpj@hg.uleth.ca)
Tom DeMary (demary@arlut.utexas.edu)
FTP sites: Guillermo Gamero (rgu280@email.mot.com)
Movie Database Server: Colin Needham (cn@ibmpcug.co.uk)
Re-use Fee Dean Wallraff (deanraff@netcom.com)
BladeRunner: Murray Chapman (muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au)
Nigel Tevett (nigel@hitcher.demon.co.uk)
Spiros Tsiolis (tsis@hpslz9.cern.ch)
Ferris Bueller's Day Off Ernie Longmire (lazlo@rt66.com)
Highlander: Christian Simons (simons@stone.saar.de)
Wing Chung (wing@canon.research.oz.au)
Jon Schell (triangle@cae.wisc.edu)
Ladyhawke: Achim Kopfmueller
(achim@pooh.sozwiss.uni-konstanz.de)
Legend: Tony Anderson (demeter@eskimo.com)
Composer Contacts: Tony Anderson (demeter@eskimo.com)
Composer Filmography: Colin Needham (cn@ibmpcug.co.uk)
Pronounciation: Ioanis Nikolaidis
Spiros Liolis (sliolis@utcvm.utc.edu)
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